We are looking for something with good construction and good cut with reasonable price point. Both show it online so should be able to at least order the model I want. Scag Liberty Z with the Kawasaki engine 48 Widest rear tires of the group (radial upgrade) 22x12x10. Not sure if there is a limit on the amount or not. Does your boss understand that lawn mowers need regular maintenance? Hi Joe, Im not a big fan of the 300 series Deere ZTRs. Dave. Discussed this with the dealer. $ 7,799 inc GST $54.73 per week. (Im assuming your lawn is rough). Please wish me and my wallet luck! You didnt say how much you are mowing but for example, 10 acres 25 times a year is only 60-75 hours a year. The Cub Cadet ZT2 is a decent mower I just like the Gravely better. Hi James, The John Deere uses both the Intek and the ELS Briggs engines in various mowers. I'll vote for the Scag because it has 2800 series hydros and the Toro 5025 has 2200 series. Want the best bang for the buck, if I am going to spend 12 to 17 grand for a mower. Just remember, if you mow that way your mower deck can throw a baseball 600 feet so make sure all debris, kids toys, rocks, and garbage are picked up before you mow. Husqvarna has the largest selection including the articulated made specifically for steep slopes. Scag is still using horizontal shaft engines pointed backwards so they do equip that model with a driveshaft from the rear of the mower to the deck. For the other two brands, you really should limit your towing to 200-250 lbs. Why? 6. I couldnt be happier and you gave me some good advice last year, so thanks for that. My only concerns with the Boulevard are that the deck adjustment is clunky (I might not change deck height much, anyway), and the armrest blocks my view of the controls (which are easy enough to navigate by feel, once familiar with them). Titan engines are the perfect tier for landscapers who are just getting into professional duty; a duty that requires excellent torque to surge you through all challenging conditions like slopes, aggressive grass, and rather large acres of land. 75316TA. Paul does most of his writing out in his workshop where he feeds the wildlife and birds in the yard. You can buy an Arm Rest Kit for Cub Cadet XT1 Thank you very much for your expertise and timely observations . 1. Find a local dealer Learn more. Im looking at the Ariens Apex, Gravely ZT HD and Toro Titan all in 60 inch. Hi Scott, Thank you for your support! My current tractor mower is a Husqvarna 46. Will the 42 suffice or should I get 46 or 48. Would I be perfectly happy with the Toro for my very average small lawn? I do like the 42 inch Toro over the 46 inch Cub Cadet. I have been a follower of your site for a few years now. It will give you a cut you can be proud of. I like them both and cant decide which would be best for me. I enjoy mowing regularly (so Im looking forward to the fun of a ZTR). Im neutral about the Liberty Z. One last question: is fabricated deck better than stamped? Hi Randy, All have the EZT2200 axles. 3. The models I list here cut great, bag well and have great parts and service networks. Appreciate it. I would never mow across the hill horizontally, just up and down vertically. Hi Mike, Your biggest problem is traction. 2. The Deere probably looks a little better to me too, but my mower doesnt need to be pretty, as long as its not ugly and it mows well and has adequate service support if needed. This turned into long story long so again i really appreciate your time! Let me know if Im completely out to lunch on this. 2. Appreciate the insight. trans) All you have to do is widen the levers and youre at a complete halt! It looked fairly safe and stable to mow this way. Q: How hot do these transmissions get? a lot better over the years. The company has a commercial implement office here in Ft Worth, but they dont stock any mowers at all. Run your fingers inside the grooves of the pulleys and make sure there is no debris or rocks stuck in them. 3. The IKON XL is actually the toughest mower of the three. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. And maybe I wouldnt really be able to tell the difference. The Timecutter in comparison has rear tires of 18 by 6 inches and front tires of 11 by 4 inches. About all Ive been able to do is get caught up in the paralysis of analysis. It costs more than the Raptor because it has a few extra features like arm rests. Ill give you links at Amazon for two sizes. And it really helps to have an expert such as yourself to bounce thoughts off of. Maybe Wowtac? They arevented inside the spout so the fuel pours quickly yet seals tightly when not in use. You can get the MyRide system on both the Titan and Timecutter if you please. Spec-wise they are almost identical. Looking for a workhorse that will last, not difficult to maintain, power through high grass, good cut and smooth ride. You may not like the Walker for your tasks. Hi Ryan, I actually recommend the John Deere Z355R. He is very hard on the mower (over 150 trees to mow around) and its held up very well. We have John Deere, Hustler, Bad Boy, Kubota, Husqvarna, and Grasshopper dealers, as well as stores such as Lowes, Home Depot, and Tractor Supply which carry other brands. Youll never wear out the ZT 3400s on your lawn. Exmark has the Ultracut 3 deck vs the Toro Turboforce . The only real difference is the Toro has a slightly thicker deck, the automatic parking brake, and the smart speed control. I can spend up to $8,000. The Gravely ZT XL is also the same mower with the next larger transmissions and a 4-year warranty instead of 3 years. However, Im not sure how comfortable I am going to feel on that hillside. Paul, I am looking for a zero turn mower for a yard that is about 2.75 acres. I am searching for my first zero turn rider. Hi James, My goal here is not to tell you which mower to buy but to help you find the best mower for you. Heres what I like about the Bradley (link below): ZT3400 drives / 23 rear tires. Its a very tough mower and with the suspension seat you can mow up to 10 acres a lot faster than the three you mentioned. For the Titan, deck height adjustments are in quarter increments from 1.5 to 4.5 inches and are adjustable by a pin and foot pedal system, which is more closely associated with commercial ZTR mowers. The bullnose decks are crafted with extra air-billowing space enabling grass strands to be erect properly before getting slashed by the blades. Mow the lawn with the deck raised up a notch or two higher and you should get more life. Toro Titan MAX Vs. Toro Titan MyRide! Hi Laurrelle, The Walker is one of the best for hills. If you have ditches or slopes to mow never mow one that has a drop-off or pond at the bottom. It built better than the commercial mowers we used 20 years ago. The Vanguard is B&S true commercial engine. And, it is worth the extra for the IKON XL. The Toro Timecutter is better at drought resistance, and so these mowers can provide perfect cutting on the rough lawns. if I go with the ikon xl, which engine should I choose, Kawasaki or the Kohler? Paul, I purchased a 2018 Gravely ZTHD52 last spring. Should i go kubota, scag, or exmark (if the latter are even available in that price range) and is it ok to cut maybe 2 foot tall weeded area. When not in use, should the deck be kept at a specific height (all the way up or down)? This well-thought-out feature was created for zero-turn newbies who are liable to bump into obstacles as they get a hang of the system. Do you have a preference between those 2? There are a several dealers not too far from my location near AA so I will go and see what they are like. Ariens Edge 42. Ive driven the mower and I like it a lot. Never had a ZTR, but I was initially leaning ZTR (looking at Spartan and Hustler SDX) UNTIL I stumbled on the Bradley Stand on in the same price range! Its pretty common to go through a belt a year with the with MTD 42 and 46-inch decks made before 2015. Your dealer also carries more Husqvarna products that are not sold at retailers. We live in Maryland. Hi Rob, All of the current name-brand zero-turns are a lot easier to drive than the models made 20 years ago. Do you have an opinion on these two units or recommend a mother brand in the same price point? Would this be enough to see a difference? Hi Pete, The Toro is very easy to work on. Thank you! Paul. Exmark has its own decks and its tuned for the commercial operators who like to mow as fast as the mower will go. I mow 2 1/2 acres with some inclines and trees. Great machine! Toro with its smart speed control allows you to pull much heavier loads than all the other ZTRs. I currently either mulch or side-discharge my clippings and will likely continue to do so. I then considered a Hustler Raptor SDX (cost too high) and the MZ54 Husqvarna (user reviews pretty negative). Thanks, Mark. They made a few improvements and painted them white. Ariens IKON XD Mowing Review. The other hidden gem is County Clipper. If will last you years. Hi Jon, You wont over-stress your mower unless the grass is building up to the point where its stopping the deck. The John Deere 345r and the new Cub Cadet Ultima mowers are the best right now for bagging. Their XLT, Challenger and Charger mowers a built very well, have very strong decks and deck support. Id like to mulch and have the capability to tow (not frequently). Thanks for the feedback! I weigh 200, and the mowers are 500 and 575 lbs, putting us well under the 900 lb rating of the EZT. I had a guy come in and clear the wooded area, as it was heavily overgrown. In my opinion, the Iron-Forged deck cuts a lot better than the stamped deck on the model you mentioned. It comes in a 42-inch deck model and a 50-inch deck model. John deere Z540M with the Kawasaki engine 48 My yard is just over an acre, 95% flat with a small ditch in the front. What do you say? Walker and Country Clipper. That said. Any suggestions? Expect it to last at a minimum twice as long as a Kaw FR. 679 cc Fuel Injected (EFI) V-Twin Engine Dual Hydro Gas ZeroTurn Riding Mower with Steering Wheel Control. Hi Mark, if you would like to go to a 54-inch deck tractor and have slopes you will need to move up to a garden tractor. Take care. Looking for a new zero turn 54 and under $3500 and under from Lowes. Its a very nice mower, cuts very well and it will last you many years. The Toro commercial engine also has a great reputation. I have been going through drive belts at a rate of 1 per season. Bradley Stander 36 (top choice because stander) Thanks in advance! A garden tractor has a heavier duty transmission so it wont burn out after a few years. Remember DO NOT buy E15 fuel. TORO is a giant in the outdoor power equipment category and produces some fo the best, if not the best mowers around. Hi Frank, there is only one the Ryobi 38 inch rider. Ive thought about asking for the mulch kit to be thrown in for free, but thats only a $110.00 value at retail price. CRAFTSMAN V20 RP 4.5 Paddle Switch Brushless Angle Grinder Review Model #CMCG451B. Hi Paul, Thanks so much for the reply. My budget is $6,000 or less. It has the upgraded Toro IronForged fabricated deck. I have narrowed the choices down to two, the Toro 74630 TimeCutter SS5000 (50") and the Cub Cadet 17WI2ACP056 50 in. (I did cut the lawn once with a 21 walk behind mower took me 2 hours and 45 minutes, and walking the hillside sideways with that mower was really hard on my knees and hips. My dad runs an old Wheel Horse, never had to rebuild anything on the motor or gear box and its going on 33 years. -I have a Ferris IS3200 mower with wide cut. Since then I have went to a local dealer that sells Toro and Cub Cadet. The Deere has the best cut in the industry but on your lawn, I doubt if you would see a difference between the Deere deck and the Cub Cadet. Hi Glen, if stripes are your thing and it doesnt do the best for you Gravely does make a stripe kit for that deck (Ariens and Gravely are the same). Its worth the $5100 but the question is do you need that much mower? Its well worth the extra money. Gravely ZT HD. . I currently cut with a CC 54 lawn tractor. I am looking at Scag Liberty z 48 and Bobcat ZT2000 48, Both look fairly similar. Hi Robert, On paper, the Liberty Z meets all the criteria for a good $4500 ZTR. The smaller ones are top-heavy, wobble around on rough ground, can be very tippy and dont have good traction on rough ground or slopes. I know you really like the Toro units. Toro TimeCutter MX and SWX fabricated deck model 2012 and newer. He's also an entrepreneur who owns and manages multiple helpful websites. I am considering an after-market DonBar to help me get on and off. My machine will be for personal suburban residential use. You will like the cut of the John Deere a lot. He mentioned and agreed but also suggested that the Cub and Toro will tow the same. What do you think? The Toro also cuts exceptionally well but it wont stripe without a stripe kit. Toro Titan (overkill) I own a JD LX280, which has been a great mower, but I have been looking at a ZTR for a couple years as an addition to the JD. You seem very knowledgeable in the area and I would appreciate your opinion. In particular, I noticed the engine on the Deere was much louder than my lawn tractor. Or even a free tune-up this fall. Greg, That is a tough call to make. In general, stamped decks cut better fabricated decks are tougher and handle more abuse. Yes, Id stay away from the Husqvarna mowers. I think i would prefer to keep it under 48 inches as well. Would the upgrades be worth the extra expense in your opinion? I would expect both would hold up well for my use. However, I like the 60 inch deck for the price and also the fabricated deck. This will save a lot of wear and tear on the transmission. I have looked at both in person and there is no comparison the ultra heavy duty Apex (same as the Gravely ZT HD that sells for about $5200) makes the ZT2 look very basic and average. It's the 50" model with a 24hp Kohler and 2800 series hydros. Finally, I am a little concerned that your local dealer cant get a CA compliant mower. And I usually just side discharge, but a mulching option and a bagging option would always be nice. Can the ZT2 transmission handle that? Doesnt the Toro have limits on towing to 85 lbs? 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