The downsides if you love super glossy finishes then hardwax oils wont make the cut. How often do you 'damp clean' the floors? The Loba 2K Supra AT or the Loba Invisible AT (both are tough) require the WS EasyPrime. No we havent had issues with white lines using Loba. I think the company owes you a free refinishing if indeed they failed to use the hardener with the 2K system. This time we were able to extend the red oak up the staircase and into the master bedroom, sanding everything for a fresh restart. THIS IS THE PRODUCT you want to look at. Chip M. BTW I found your Blog very helpful! ), Now, after some delays, we are finally about to get our hardwood floors refinished. I would get that issue sorted out first. Although the Loba 2K Supra AT is supposed to reach a full cure in 5 days, I and others have noted that this product does continue to harden for several weeks. Thanks so much for explaining the differences between a couple of the best finishes you feel are available for hardwood floors. The ideal is 7 days without ANYONE in the housebut 5 days is allowed so long as you live 'lightly' on your floor. It's entirely up to you. I wish you wanted to take a road trip to SC because I would hire you in instant. Any advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated. My flooring person has never used either system, although they are otherwise experienced in flooring. These spots can indicate a BOND issue in those spots. If my hardwood floor contractor has not used this line, will he be able to do properly? It was done over time: the earliest was installed in 2002, then about 2006 and then 2010. 49 Abs. You have to special order it. 7. What type of cleaner are you using when you damp clean the floors? Retains the natural appearance and feel of untreated wood. This thread is getting so confusing from the different people with problems, though, because the Australian with the Loba failure is different from the person who just posted about Bona who is starting with an unfinished floor. For finish, either system would work. In erster Linie handelt es sich dabei um Cookies, die fr den Betrieb der Seite notwendig sind. And actually, footprints show up less than past floors I've had done with a higher sheen. BaumSquad1978 1 yr. ago. Description. It is best to work within the same chemical family/producer. NEXT DAY: A light sanding/screening of the wood is done before the LAST coat of finish!!!! Thank you, Mike B, http://www.loba.de/us/about-loba/partners/distributors.html. I just put a towel under the dog bed and will worry about it some other time. Do you remember or know if there was a jug inside of that packaging? The lighting in daylight as compared to nighttime makes a larger difference in the color of the wood than does the coating itself, as shown: Help please!!! Using EasyPrime first would prevent it. In order to give you a better service this Website uses cookies. 1) Rubio is very durable and we have found it is not too sensitive for wet environments like kitchens and baths. If, you have ever rolled Nordicseal, Natiuralseal, and poly shade successfully. My projects also involved about an hour working with the wet 2K catalyzed products; the fumes were very strong even with an N95 mask and open windows, and I was applying the coating in cold weather which meant the cure time was speeding up against the outside air compared to warmer inside air. 1 S. 1 a DSGVO) Speicherdauer Hchstgrenze fr die Speicherung von Cookies: 7 Monate Weitere Hinweise Die an Google bermittelten Daten sind nicht anonym und werden in den USA gespeichert. Just wondering if anybody has used Loba2K invisible protect or experience with the finish. 56-62 | D . As we talked about at the start of this series of articles, high-end water based finish systems are on the cutting edge of technology and are among the most durable finishes available. I am using the semi-gloss sheen of the 2K Supra AT, and I think it looks fairly low-gloss in most lights. 6 Abs. We have an experienced refinisher lined up to do the job who has never used the product. As suggested above, the HARDENER is a metal tin that is 1/10th the size of the big jug. We gave it a go, it was marketed as hard wearing, perfect for high traffic, homes with families etc After a few days we noticed track marks, chemical burns. Costs money to fix and no real professional would compromise a floor by using a cheap incompatible sealer. Clearly he wasnt & is blaming us & the product- says the floors were perfect when he finished & before we moved back home. This product says. hard wearing, perfect for high traffic areas but we cant lay rugs, walk, vacuum or coexist in the space.. we have been told not to use hand wash as it marks the floors. its COVID. my kids need to wash their hands but cant because the Loba floors will. Do NOT move into the house until the 5 day mark (after the final coat has been added). Working within a budget is reality for most of us when remodeling our homes. Loba Invisible Protect When I first met these homeowners in 2014, their original hardwood floors were too thin to refinish. From your description, I take it he worked alone? They are a voluntary society which 'governs' the quality of work being done to/with wood flooring. Here we are applying this water-based finish, (Unfortunately we cant work this fast in real life.). One that we use and recommend has zero VOCs. 2-coat full system requiring no primer Increased anti-slip properties No polishing Because hardwax oils dont form a plastic film that sits on top of the floor surface, it makes them far easier to spot repair than surface finishes if you ever do any damage to them. I was blatantly told to take it up with the contractor & Fair Trading (Australian Consumer Affairs Regulators).grrr sad face crying face. Might 4 layers (Easy Prime plus Easy Finish plus 2 coats of Supra) be too much, yielding a plastic coated look? Technically Loba EasyFinish is a 2 coat system over their primer. Not muchbut it will warm up the colour. At that point, a decision may need to be made whether to continue or not. We are in Georgia, so its hot and humid most of the time. As much as the floor is grippy for socks and such to make it non-slip, it also is grippy for grime. Both are very good finishes. We are also replacing windows. Javascript must be enabled for the correct page display, (Comments are moderated and may take a couple of days to be approved.). How long ago did the 'latest' spot occur? Its hard to recommend a finish without looking at all the factors involved including the floors, setting and cleaning schedule in person. Since then, the homeowners moved out of the house (their other house has been featured in a post!) I love the raw wood look of it so wondering if this magic stuff would be good for it as well? We have 3 dogs and they've done no visible damage to it. It misses it by a snick. The Bona Traffic HD is the non-yellowing option. If you just apply a clear water base finish to Red Oak it can look dull, flat and lifeless. Anti-slip in accordance with BGR 181 and achieves DIN 51130 rating R 9. I came here again to refresh my memory about floor finishes after reading, on a high-end interior designers blog, that the old oil-based poly finishes arent as durable anymore as the older, higher voc onesjust as you state. Should the stair components be water popped as well to match tone? As a former seller of Loba products I ALWAYS explain the 'no rugs for 6 months' stuff. For particularly highly trafficked floors. My front windows have shield under a covered porch so im not worried about rain getting in. The Houzz discussion forum is a good place to search for examples of tannin pull. That comes from experience. Almost. The Dangers of Hardwood Floor Refinishing, A Blast from the Past: Wood Floors in the 1800s, A Blast from the Past: Wood Floors in the 1920s, Available in Ultra Matte, Satin, Semi-Gloss and Gloss. It had all dried up and I was so concerned it would leave a mark. This Park City homeowner's wood beams have taken on an orange tone, her brown baseboards have a slight green undertone in some areas from sun exposure, and she had her kitchen cabinets painted black several years ago. This is the CERAMIC INFUSED polyurethane technology that gives the Loba EXCELLENT scratch resistance. A good floor refinisher will be able to work with you on this. Worried that another coat will mess up a nice job. I was wondering if you have ever tried the Milk Paint Tung Oil and Citrus solvent. Another downside to high-end water based finishes is the price. The highest gloss level they can attain is a subtle satin sheen, and that is only specific products such as Pallmann Magic oil. A hair. If they are more familiar with Bona, then maybe you should ask for Bona Traffic HD next time to get something with which they are familiar in terms of application. If, you can find someone with experience. We removed the old wood floors and replaced them with new, narrow plank white oak to honor the age of the home. Flooring: White Oak Herringbone 4 inch x 24 inch planks; stain: Loba Invisible by Kimminau Floors. 100 sqm oak were renovated with, 11474 Application 2K InvisibleProtect AT 190805, 11474 BGR 181 R9 wood LOBADUR 2K Invisible Protect AT. First coat was applied today, and we were told its a 2 step process. In certain parts of the country you can still get the higher VOC stuff in quarts, they will be able to tell you if thats an option. Help. It is too shiny for our liking! With 1008sf (94sm) this should have taken 1-2 days depending on how many people on the job site. Difficult for a professional to do well? Meeting with our flooring sub today. Traffic HD is a great water based system. If so, it was never catalyzed. The Loba AT is as tough as Traffic HD. You may always link your new thread from here so we know to jump over into your dedicated discussion. How many applications are necessary 2 or 3. So your floor will need to be stained first either natural or in a color of your choice. In this article we will talk about the good and bad points of these 3 finish systems and reveal our recommendations for what we feel are the current top finishes in each category from our hands on, real world experience. The hardener is what catalyzes the coating, provides chemical resistance, and makes the coating tough enough to last a couple of decades. The hardwoods are on a the first floor which is high traffic so sounds like it will in fact, be the most durabledo you agree? One warning, and that is because this is a two-part (2K), catalyzed coating, it will start to skin over and dry very, very quickly and leave applicator marks if you don't lay it down fast, then walk off and leave it alone. I have a very random questions about the example picture you showed where a homeowner used a clear coat water based finish on their white oak floors. There are scratches already and I have a stain from water sitting on the floor over night, I am attempting to get rid of the stain by refinishing that area and hoping for the best. We're very happy with the look and work done. The ingredients are listed as alcohol, anti-skinning agent, dispersion of polyurethane in water, micro wax, silicic acid, and silicone. We applied a coat of finish to the floors to buy them some time to save for the full remodel. Aged barrel cut the red tone of the red oak floors, but still left some of the brown tones coming through along with the gray tones of the stain to provide a nice balance with the gray walls. Getting ready to do my red oak flooring with the Loba invisible and it says no primer needed. 5. Professional flooring contractors dont want floors to fail anymore than clients do. LOBA Roller Microfiber 100-120 - as a three coat system ONLY. This past week I put down three coats of Optifinis Satin, but there's a clear demarcation between what was finished before and now. THIS IS THE PRODUCT you want to look at. I would say go for a good quality high-end finish for your floors so they last a long time, and match them as best you can to the stairs. Rodate de mujeres fuertes, mujeres . These products allow 2 coats per day. 1 S. 1 TTDSG Empfnger der Daten: Google LLC, Alphabet Inc. (beide USA) bermittlung in Drittstaaten: Ja Manahme nach Art. Anti-slip in accordance with BGR 181 and achieves DIN 51130 rating R 9. She doesn't like the Bissell, so she just uses the Loba "wet jet" thing I bought when we first had the floors done. Some finishers skip adding the hardener and apply just the base to make application easier for themselves and to cut back on fumes, but it is never recommended. Eg. Great Series Thanks. Sealer is different than finish. 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